Agile is more than theatre: Carnegie

The agile methodology is more than just theatre in the workplace, ANZ Group Executive Digital Banking Maile Carnegie says – beyond the stand-up meetings and post-it notes is a fundamental new way of working.

Speaking to bluenotes on video, Carnegie said agile requires business leaders to be much clearer about objectives in a way which is easily passed down through teams.

“At its core for me, agile is all about distributed leadership,” she said.  “[It’s almost about] leading through numbers rather than verbal committees and meetings.” 

" At its core agile is all about distributed leadership."
Maile Carnegie, ANZ Group Executive Digital Banking 

Ensuring a workforce is comfortable with distributing leadership is a cultural issue - not a process or methodology one, Carnegie said. This means leaders must expand their skills to adapt.

“In this new world, yes there are moments where [leaders] need to demonstrate command and control,” she said. “But it’s more important to have many different tools in your leadership toolbox. You need to be much more sophisticated.”

Carnegie said ANZ’s transition to agile was going well but warned it would be years before the bank was “expert practitioners” of the methodology. 

“It’s going to be a multi-year [process],” she said.

Carnegie also touched on the importance of data in the agile way of working. Watch the video to find out more.

Andrew Cornell is managing editor at bluenotes

The views and opinions expressed in this communication are those of the author and may not necessarily state or reflect those of ANZ.

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